Phone Call Interview Transcription To English
The Phone Call Interview With The Commander Of The Revolutionary Guards (IRGC) In Charge Of Protecting The House of Leaders; part 1
A: Hello there.
B: Hello again and good evening to you.
A: Good evening to you too, How are you? Are You Good?
B: I’m, Thank you.
My phone was getting charged,
and my battery was at 4% to 5%.
B: Therefore I brought the phone to
To the other room do we can talk
& It changes at the same time.
B: That’s why I hanged up and
A: That is great, really great.
A: So I’m not going to take anymore
Of the time, please begin with
introducing your self, and tell us
More about you.
A: Then please tell us in detail about
The story you want to revile.
B: I’m going to be back shortly
Then I’m going to start.
B: Well, I m K.A Commander Of The Revolutionary Guards IRGC In Charge Of Protecting The House of Leaders.
B: Up to this date I have been in the service for (X)Yrs, and I’m officially one of the permanent staff of the IRGC bases in Chamber Of Ayatollah Khamenie.
B: And, about the subject of the accident of the plane that they made happen, I have information that I’ll put at your service, and I hope you’ll find it useful.
B: And considering that, my security should also be considered.
B: Well, if you want should I start.
A: If you please do so, and also
please tell us about your education
A: Then let’s talk about the conversation that we had the other night.
A: I...., Tell us in detail about your education, what it’s, and the description of what you said; that you were not there since the morning, and the rest of the story.
B: Let me tell you that I have master's in computer hardware, and my specialty is in networking, and I studied at Imam Hussein University.
B: During this time that I been working, I was in the position in accordance with my specialty, also I did go on many missions that were not necessarily related to my specialization.
B: Now do you want me to start with these?
A: Not so much about things outside of the story. Just about anything that actually relates to the flight.
B: That’s what I meant as well
A: Yes, yes. Thank you, Thanks.
B: That morning, the day of the accident, which was early in the morning, I saw a text message on my phone asking to get to work as soon as possible.
A: What was the time?
B: In Short While.
B: I have to check because I do not remember after this time, but I know it was after the accident.
B: One hundred percent (100%)
A: I believe it would have been 7:30 or 8 o'clock
B: No, it was earlier. For example; you think close to 6:15 like this.
A: 6? Nearly around 7 I think it flew
B: No, No. You see. Are you talking about the flight in incident?
A: Yes, Yes. I think the incident was near 6:30 or 7
B: No, No.
A: Of course it’s ok, because the amount of time, a year has passed.
B: No, no, this must be corrected, because if there is a contradiction in our conversation, it will not be right.
B: Honestly, let me, I have written it down, just give me a moment l’ll find it, and will inform you.
B: At 7:23am a text message arrived, and at 7:32am they called, and at 7:41 in the morning they announced on the radio that; it’s necessary to get to work as soon as possible.
A: The contents of the text message was of the same, asking to get yourself there, right?
B: Yes, as soon as possible, and necessarily get to work.
A: Oh, ok, it's very good very good.
A: Go-ahead please;
B: ok, I arrived at work on the account of their repeated insistence, and I had just entered my room, and as I was changing my clothes we were informed that the mission order was ready. “You should immediately go to the scene of the crash with the cars that are getting there.”
B: At that time, I had no information at all about what had happened to this aircraft, what was the specificity of the aircraft or the situation, and the subject was completely unknown.
B: I did not have any information or background on this issue until I was introduced to it as I arrived to the scene.
B: I got in the car and went for the mission to the place of crash, and got off along with two other colleagues who were on a their own mission following other parts of the mission, and a large number of the forces that had came from different departments.
B: Which at the moment I have many of them in my mind that I want to tell you all about them here.
B: From the fire department, the emergency service’s of the Basij and the municipality and the people at the very beginning. That is, we were in fact the last force to enter the scene.
A: That is, the Revolutionary Guards were in fact the last force, right?
B: Yes, yes, the Revolutionary Guards was the very last force that entered the scene.
B: And I will say this in parentheses, (“which I later found out was all intentional and planned, meaning it was not a coincidence.”)
A: Do you think you remember approximately when you arrived?
B: Me, at the scene?
B: Around 8:30.
B: 8:30 in the morning.
A: ok, by then others had been able to collect everything from the scene.
B: At that moment, on the other hand it was so chaotic that there was really no place to follow many of the protocols.
B: Well, we entered the scene, and unfortunately we came across horrifying scenery that had happened, and the bodies that had disintegrated, and in the first few minutes we were in a state of bewilderment, or rather I was.
B: Then I became sure that these are Iranians, they are our compatriots, here and then I had lot of questions, that I started to ask others who were present on the scene before us.
B: Research and inquire about what the issue is? they said; It was a flight from a Ukrainian airline to Canada, full of dual-nationality Iranian passengers.
B: Well, here and then I had more doubts about how such a thing happened? and why?
B: And my assumption was that it must’ve been the United States that has carried out order of missile or the air strike.
A: They attacked?
B: Yes, in retaliation of the attack on their base by Iran, they came and did such an honorific act.
B: Because I had a background in my mind, that they had already done the same with the passenger plane in the Persian Gulf from their ship. So this was possible.
B: I convinced myself that something like this had happened. As my anger multiplied and I was really upset and at the height of my anger and hatred for this incident, while I saw the dismembered bodies of my compatriots.
B: Because, when I became convinced that these are compatriots, I was much more upset than I thought they were an international flight and it had nothing to do with us.
B: As I was talking to the forces present on the scene, I also got in touch with my co-workers through the radio, and asked; What is your impressions? What did you get? What was your first analysis?
B: We came together and we talked, and they actually had the same analysis, they had the same perception that it was a retaliatory move by the United States, because we did not see any other possibility.
B: Then our work was over, maybe three to three and a half hours after we arrived, our mission was over. The mission ended and we returned to our base.
B: And there the conversations, the analyzes, the statistics and the data that came in were so varied and so many and in fact so different that everyone was confused and out of focus.
B: Well, we came and categorized the analyzes, studied, and finally came up with some vague questions, how? Why this target? And in fact the biggest question was, why did this flight fly at all, why?
B: These reasons were in the minds of all the forces present there at the scene In addition, the same anger, and retaliatory action was repeated all the time continually.
A: May I ask a question? Because you were at the scene, did you see anything special?
A: Even I once asked you about the chairs, because it was reported that there were four seats only?
A: And what happened to the accessories of these passengers? We do not see a single suitcase in the movies, not even one thing, there is nothing in the photos and videos.
A: I myself took about 380 photos of different indigenous people there and in none of them do you see a suitcase or a chair on this flight.
A: If you are talking about the scene, please say something related to this, and if you can explain about it, thank you.
B: There are two parts. You see; on the day of the accident all the items and belongings of the passengers were actually stolen from their bodies in large quantities.
B: That is, by the same people who were present at the scene earlier, and because there was no control over the entry and exit of the items and in fact the passengers' luggages, therefore mostly were simply stolen and a that’s what has happened to a very large quantity of them, got actually lost.
B: The rest of what remained and reached the IRGC was collected by the IRGC, and stored in a depot and still is. Now a series of items that were valuable, they certainly came and actually evaluated us, that is, evaluated in their own favour.
B: There are a number of items that have no financial value, and may be memories for many of the families of the victims, and in fact a memento of their lost ones. Which a large volume of it are stored in the depot and have not reached the families.
B: As for why there are so few seats at the scene; You see, the passenger plane fuels with supper gasoline before the flight, and the flight was in the first minutes, and it was hit by two missiles.
B: As a rule; The volume of the contact with the plane was so high that in any way you can imagine, the fire and explosion was so large that it could easily destroy and melt the seat with this volume of gasoline and fire.
B: But what you say; That Why 4 left? And they were not destroyed like the others, you see, I do not know if you seen the bodies of these loved ones or not. Definitely must have seen it.
A: No, I must say here and now, that i approximately, I say approximately non of the families have seen any.
A: Maybe 98% or 99% of families somehow, or out of grief, or whatever else, they persuaded no one to be seen.
A: And practically no one saw the bodies, I received a body in a bag myself, and so did the others. Even those that left Iran have not seen the bodies too.